• @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      111 year ago

      If you’re a project manager in IT, and you don’t have a technical background, you can fuck right off.

      It’s absolutely a tech job if it’s being done right.

      • @foggy@lemmy.world
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        81 year ago

        “okay and our client specifically said make it pop. James can you do that for us by end of day?”

    • just another dev
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      21 year ago

      It’s not a technical job, but it is (not exclusively) a job in the technical sector.

    • @hightrix@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      Say you don’t work in tech without saying you don’t work in tech.

      I’m a dev. Love them or hate them, PMs are vital to success of projects.

      • @dhork@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        Good PMs are vital to the success of projects, and bad PMs are vital to their failure.

        • Punkie
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          01 year ago

          This right here. I have worked with a dozen PMs in 30 years, only two were any damn good. One managed an IT team, and she didn’t know tech worth squat, but God damn, did she keep the flow going and know how to get shit done without being an ass about it.

          On the other hand, I faught with a PM once because he didn’t understand the concept of priorities or how to manage a crisis. “You want me to fix the outage or attend a meeting about it?” “Both.” “Pick one. You have a choice. I can fix the issue in the data center, or join a blame session in the meeting room. Which one?” “BOTH!” I got to the meeting room, and he demanded we put down our laptops and pay attention. He invited EVERYBODY regardless of whether they were needed or not. Twenty seven people all bitching about the outage and not a single person fixing it. No meeting moderation. Just chaos until he had a panic attack. Just useless.

      • @chakan2@lemmy.world
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        -11 year ago

        Of the 30-50 PMs I’ve worked with in my career, I’ve had 2 actively contribute to the success of my team’s work. I’ve had a handful scuttle projects because they couldn’t manage the clients, the rest just kind of hung out and collected a massive paycheck.

        The highest performing teams I’ve been on had the lead developer play that role.

        The role is vital, the PM it’s self is not.