Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…

What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

  • MuddybulldogOP
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    132 years ago

    Knowing they’re visible on kbin made me realize that most Lemmy users probably weren’t aware, as it’s non-obvious.

    • theinspectorst
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      62 years ago

      Yeah, I had a good natured discussion with a Lemmy user on feddit.uk the other day where they were still inexplicably downvoting my responses each time, despite us both being polite and constructive.

      It made me realise that a) they use the downvote button quite differently to how I use it and b) they probably didn’t know that I, as a kbinaut, could literally see they were the one downvoting.

      • WhiteHotaru
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        22 years ago

        I started a discussion on feddit.de about good discussion practice citing Karl Poppers rules of discussion and the use of the down and upvote buttons.

        I think discussion culture in the Fedivers is quite healthy at the moment.

    • czech
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      22 years ago

      Yea, good call. I wonder if kbin makes them viewable because the activity pub protocol does not allow them to be easily hidden.

      • Seems to be Ernest’s attitude about that sort of thing, he doesn’t like to hide things from the average user that someone more technically inclined would still be able to access

      • @XanXic@lemmy.world
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        02 years ago

        It’s apparently because it’s Twitter based and Twitter shows likes and such. Kbin doesn’t really have a like upvote downvotes thing. It’s like a favorite and a boost. It’s weird

        • VerifiablyMrWonka
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          12 years ago

          Not true.

          Both Lemmy and KBin map the same activitypub activities to the same upvote and downvote actions.