YouTube isn’t happy you’re using ad blockers — and it’s doing something about it::undefined

    • @Contend6248@feddit.de
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      True, holy shit if they wouldn’t completely bomb you with ads everywhere it might change something, but I accidentally used the official app on my smartphone and I can’t even make out content between the ads in the UI.

      Not to speak of the 50s ads for a 20s video, nah won’t ever go back to the official experience.

      It reminds me back when ad blockers came around, nobody cared for the one banner or some pictures on the site, but they ripped your arm out and cried when there were finally solutions for solving that harassment.

    • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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      I’m considering giving up Youtube right now with how many times it tries to fuck up my recommendations by sneaking far right BS into my watch history. Especially you, shorts.

  • Tygr
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    1801 year ago

    YouTube is WHY I have adblockers to this day. I was Ok with the ads at the beginning and end. When they started cramming 2-3 ads in the middle of a 10 minute video, that’s when I started looking for a solution.

    Their greed is why they make $0 from me many years later.

    I think it’s rich they aren’t happy with people using them when they’re the ones that made the standard viewing experience awful in the first place.

  • @fat_stig@lemmy.world
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    1041 year ago
    ! 2023-10-06 https://www.youtube.com
    www.youtube.com##tp-yt-paper-dialog.ytd-popup-container.style-scope
    

    Oh no, anyway.

    • radix
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      241 year ago

      Is this a rule for an adblock extension? What does it pick out?

      • @fat_stig@lemmy.world
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        311 year ago

        It gets rid of the nag screen so you can just watch the video. For uBlock Origin, it’s a bit crude, may affect other bits of interface, I also use the Enhancer for YouTube plug-in for Firefox which is really useful.

        • @Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          31 year ago

          I quite easily removed it with uBlock using block element, but the video is still paused.

          I guess this is a similar solution?

        • @RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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          It’ll work until they get annoyed and do what Hulu and Twitch does and bake it into the player. Then we’re kinda fucked.

  • Chaotic Entropy
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    Considering how prevalent scams and actively malicious content posing as ads are across ad services in general, having an ad blocker is just basic online safety at this point.

    • @realharo@lemm.ee
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      171 year ago

      I still see fake download button ads distributed via Google’s own ad infrastructure to this day. I even reported a few that were taken down.

      For all the AI prowess Google likes to brag about, why can’t they make a simple “does this look like a download button?” detector? The scams are not that clever, most of them follow one of a small number of specific patterns.

      • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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        What’s worse is when corporations try to be funny put a fake download button and the entire ad is like “Wow can’t wait to click this skip button” and they don’t realize that sometimes youtube randomly makes those unskippable so it’s just awkward dead air for 30 seconds.

  • @MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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    611 year ago

    I understand that hosting video and streaming it is an expensive business that has to be paid, even if we ignore all the income Google has racked up by profiling people and (ab)using that to show ads. That said, I wouldn’t mind if they had more taste which ads play, in what number and fucking when. Most annoying thing is when the play 3 minute ads on 6 minute video. Not even shittiest TV network does that. And also unskipable ads. These days I skip all, self-promotion and in-video sponsors included.

    • @Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, my experience with youtube ads

      Buy a Chromebook

      PragerU

      Right wing Youtubers

      Don’t vote to make abortion a protected right by the state constituition

      By a ford

      Here’s a pornographice/semi pornographic anime game we are paid to show you

      BUY A CHROME BOOK!

      Hey, check out this person’s scam! They paid us to force this scam on you!

      Look at these cable news channels’ youtube channels

      Listen to this mom who is totally concerned about some bill that will kill or save all the children

      BUY

      A

      CHROMEBOOK!

      buy a jeep

      Listen to this prepper try to hock you “survival” gear and shelf stable food

      Don’t you remember when families did things? wasn’t that fun? Families, doing things?

      Soon it will also be flooded with THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN!

      I am interested in none of these things

        • @inverimus@lemm.ee
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          41 year ago

          My 6yo gets a ton of ads for insurance, about the same amount as for toys. It’s weird.

          • @Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            I used to get these all the time. Haven’t seen one in almost a year now. I wonder what happened for them to so strongly disassociate something with me? I wish I knew so that I could weaponize it.

        • FraidyBear
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          31 year ago

          You could always spice it up and see what you get.

          I use VPNs and ad blockers where I can / when they work. I also have an extension that makes my Internet traffic useless by sending random data. When I need to go to the official YouTube app and get ads I get a smorgasbord. Right now they seem to think I’m either a recently divorced middle aged man with ED who just discovered they are actually a balding gay man or a teenaged girl with period problems and a desperate need for a social media following. Neither of these even come close but it’s always entertaining to see what I get.

      • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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        That thing, you know that thing that you already buy? Here’s an ad for it! Now we get to lie and say we were the reason you bought it!

        It’s so fucking weird how I got way more ads for runescape when I played runescape, and it’s not like I watch less runescape content today. They also seem to think I’m a girl because whenever I do get something unique it’s always for purses, make up, fashion and hygiene products; all of which I have a below-zero chance of ever buying.

    • @canthidium@lemmy.world
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      251 year ago

      These days I skip all, self-promotion and in-video sponsors included.

      Sounds like you probably use it but if not, get the SponsorBlock extension to do exactly this.

    • @inverimus@lemm.ee
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      41 year ago

      They show those 3 minute ads because they get paid a lot for them. My favorite are the 30 minute documentary ads.

  • @Worstdriver@lemmy.world
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    581 year ago

    The day I can’t get around youtube ads is the day I stop using youtube. I already refuse to use it on my mobile device or my TV, due to the ads.

      • @PeWu@lemmy.ml
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        151 year ago

        It doesn’t block it, it doesn’t even download them or even request them. There is no concept of ad in NewPipe.

          • @Stephen304@lemmy.ml
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            101 year ago

            The official newpipe isn’t on the play store because it breaks their terms of service, which makes sense considering 2 of the 3 “newpipes” on there are just completely different apps using the name and logo of newpipe. The third is actually newpipe but with loads of ads added, not sure how long it’ll last before Google nukes it.

            But yeah for newpipe just get the offical ad free and open source version from TeamNewPipe on GitHub or on F-Droid in the main repo. Or if you want newpipe with no ads and also with sponsorblock, you want to get it from polymorphicshade on GitHub or through F-Droid with the Izzyondroid repo.

            • Dizzy Devil Ducky
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              31 year ago

              On the subject of newpipe, if you also view a lot of videos on NicoNico, Japanese yt, I recommend the pipepipe fork since it allows you to play both yt videos along with videos from NicoNico without ads. Also works with BiliBili in case you like listening to Chinese vocaloid songs or other Chinese content without ads.

    • smiletolerantly
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      YouTube ReVanced gets you completely adfree, configurably de-shittified Youtube with sponsorblock on your phone. (And Youtube Music ReVanced is premium YT music, for free, of course also without ads.)

      And Smarttube Next does the same thing on Android TVs, FireTV, and probably some others I haven’t used.

    • Hopps
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      11 year ago

      On Android the Firefox app allows the use of extensions including all the adblock options you would find on PC. Works great and for YouTube as well.

    • e_mc2
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      411 year ago

      Or Revanced, or SmartTube or NewPipe etc etc. Fortunately and thanks to some great devs out there, we’re still able to give Google the big middle finger.

      • @SterlingVapor@slrpnk.net
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        11 year ago

        I’ve found revanced to stop playing the video after a minute or two unless you frequently update it (which is a manual process)… I no longer listen to lectures while I run errands, because there’s now no convenient way to do it. Ads are out of the question, and finding a video I want to watch only to have it cut out as I get on the road has killed the experience for me

        I’m on Android, and open to suggestions

      • @averagedrunk@lemmy.ml
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        11 year ago

        I don’t mind tasteful, well paced ads. That said, I use New pipe and Firefox with Ublock Origin because no one seems to remember what those are.

        • @Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 year ago

          uBlock won’t block the new popups. You can remove them, but it will still pause the video at the moment.

    • @LrdThndr@lemmy.world
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      51 year ago

      Okay. Explain something to me. I’ve tried to use piped, but it’s just so dogshit slow. Unusably so.

      What am I doing wrong?

      • @callmepk@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        I am not sure… are you using a shared instance or self-hosting? I self-host my own instance and have no issue since my deployment

    • @Melco@lemmy.world
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      241 year ago

      Its more akin to brainwashing. The most effective brainwashing technique is to repeat a falsehood over and over and eventually the subject integrates and believes it. This is exactly what advertising does and unfortunately for society it works.

        • @Melco@lemmy.world
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          31 year ago

          Exactly, this is why the selfhosting community is full of user testimonials on how great tailscale is or how beneficial it is to funnel all of your traffic through cloudflair.

          A new user will read that over and over and think I guess this is the consensus on how to do things.

          The problem is there are no bots out there telling you that there are well proven open source tools that have been around for half a century that solve the same problem and there is no need for these 3rd party commercial products.

          Advertising works and covert native advertising and unbiased “user testimonials” is very effective at shaping opinion, especially in a bot driven ai world.

  • @whaleross@lemmy.world
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    451 year ago

    I’ve been paying the €5 ad free subscription without other premium features for years until they announced that it will be discontinued from next month.

    So then I am going to take a new look into ad blockers.

    Good job, YouTube.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    381 year ago

    The thing is YouTube just can’t be nice about it. It just cannot. In times that it was adblocker resistant, they’d add more and longer and worse ads until they pissed off enough engineers who collectively declared it a crisis and built the many anti-YouTube-ad solutions we have, from alternative YouTube mirrors to the Firefox packages.

    We’ve seen this play out in the tech industry multiple times, and always the public wins thanks, largely to programmers who just get ticked off and spend a weekend on pizza to create a bypass.

    The executives at Alphabet know all they have to do is allow concessions to be only mildly annoying and leave them. Five minutes of commercials for fifty minutes of content? That might be fair so long as it’s pizza ads and not Jesus ministries telling us how sinful the LGBT+ are or Matt Walsh suggesting we make it illegal for some folk to vote.

    But they can’t do that. Shareholder Primacy means Alphabet must push for record profits, even if it means enshittifying all their services, including YouTube, and that means a 1/4 ad to content ratio and increasing that until it’s intolerable and ad-based profit numbers go down due to failing viewership.

    • @tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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      121 year ago

      Five minutes of commercials for fifty minutes of content?

      Yeah, and besides, that shit barely functions on TV/streaming because someone paid to have quality content created. When you’re clicking around yt and you don’t know if a video is decent or dogshit, why should you have to sit through long ads just so you can watch a minute before you decide the content sucks?

    • @nephs@lemmygrad.ml
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      41 year ago

      How do you guarantee pizza ads if the jesus ministries are pushing that sweet money around, too?

      Hell, no! The world is happier without the ad industry. The Internet was run basically on pure voluntary effort, and it was great. The ads didn’t make it viable, it always was.

  • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    361 year ago

    What is it with the number of people “happy” to pay for Youtube Premium? Like “why yes, I’m glad I can give a company that spies on me day and night for the privilege!”

    • TonyOstrich
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      341 year ago

      What kinda bothers me is that I recognize that something like YouTube is expensive to run and just switching to an alternative isn’t super feasible. I would be more than happy to pay for a service like YouTube that I use everyday. HOWEVER, not with their bullshit double dipping. If I am paying a company like Google to use their services, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that their should be an expectation or mechanism where that means I am not just no longer served ads, but that all tracking and data collection about my account(s) are stopped.

      That’s never going to happen though :/

      • @pewnit@lemmings.world
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        41 year ago

        That’s a fair criticism. I personally don’t care about it because I gave up on the idea of having any privacy ages ago but I get that people may not be happy with that.

        If I were to play devil’s advocate, I can say that the data they collect is important for serving you the right videos but let’s be real here, Google definitely uses it to serve you ads everywhere else

    • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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      -221 year ago

      Because their “spying” doesn’t really seem to have any down sides for me, and I get better, more useful, products from it. I don’t really care if they know what woodworking videos my boring ass watches.

      • @Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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        181 year ago

        They don’t just keep track of what videos you watch, they also keep track of what parts of those videos, as well as everything you search for and everything you begin to search for but never actually do. They also keep track of where you are when you watch the video and what device you are watching it on.

        • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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          -131 year ago

          They don’t just keep track of what videos you watch, they also keep track of what parts of those videos, as well as everything you search for and everything you begin to search for but never actually do. They also keep track of where you are when you watch the video and what device you are watching it on.

          OMG, the horror…

          • @Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
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            It is for those of us who care about our privacy. I for one don’t want nebulous corporations with questionable ethics and data security policies knowing and tracking my every movement. And while yes, I recognize that to a certain extent that is unavoidable in this day and age, I don’t condone it nor do I want it to be easy for them.

            • @TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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              121 year ago

              People today are just too comfortable with the death of privacy and corporations spying what you do day in and day out.

              Everything about us is up for grabs but god forbid anyone watches a meme without monetization.

          • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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            31 year ago

            Give me your current location, list of immediate interests and last 100 searched queries, if you’re so okay with that.

            Of course, I don’t expect an obvious corporate shill to have any intellectual honesty.

          • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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            161 year ago

            Its weird that you are okay with some company doing this.

            When if it was some stalker you’d be freeking out and going to the police and begging for help.

            • @Malfeasant@lemm.ee
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              Because a stalker might actually cause you physical harm, while Google/YouTube just wants money, and not necessarily your money. I have no love for the ad supported business model, I’m definitely not defending it, but you’re not going to convince someone who doesn’t value privacy to care about it.

            • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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              Its weird that you are okay with some company doing this. When if it was some stalker you’d be freeking out and going to the police and begging for help.

              ATTENTION STALKERS!!!
              This morning I watched a video of a guy making a 5 drawer cabinet out of plywood on my Pixel 6 XL from my home. I skipped the last 30 seconds of the video because I got bored.

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                GPS location please.

                Obviously I don’t want to know it but be sure there’s hundreds of Google employees that can freely access it.

          • @wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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            And if you are ever in a spot of trouble, they can and will hand that over to the cops to burn you with. Trouble you dont even need to be guilty of, mind you, so long as the data implies you could be.

            Like how facebook had records of a girl searching for abortion treatments, and slipped those into uncle sams pockets to put her in jail for daring to want the right of bodily autonomy.

            What thing do you do today that will incriminate you tomorrow?